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tell that to your kids and grandchildren. >> i am a boring deficit hawk, i say the same thing over and over again. paul krugman has convinced a lot of my liberal friends that it is okay to kick the can down the road. >> he actually used those words. >> terrible idea. it? all sorts of disasters. sudden interest -- it courts all sorts of disasters. it takes a long time to fix these problems. sequestration is a very crude, ugly tool, but if it actually has the effect of making people get serious about entitlement reform and tax reform, it would not be so bad. >> colby, what do you think? >> going back to charles' column, he said this the first time since the election the president obama has been put on defense. i don't think that is true. i agree with mark, the republicans will bear the brunt of this initially, because they will appear to be the obstructionists. looking at it in sheer political terms is the wrong way to look at this. this would have merkel implications if the economy tanks as a result of this -- global implications if the economy tanks as a result of this. >> you think th
tell that to your kids and grandchildren. >> i am a boring deficit hawk, i say the same thing over and over again. paul krugman has convinced a lot of my liberal friends that it is okay to kick the can down the road. >> he actually used those words. >> terrible idea. it? all sorts of disasters. sudden interest -- it courts all sorts of disasters. it takes a long time to fix these problems. sequestration is a very crude, ugly tool, but if it actually has the effect of making...
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the unifying message of the republican party, the fiscal, our fiscal hours is out of order and the deficit is spiraling and we need to get that under control. you're also seeing republicans saying we can't just be about fiscal issues and in fact, the very beginning of that speech that majority leader cantor gave, let's put aside fiscal issues for a minute. let's talk about education. let's talk about health care. let's talk about immigration. they're trying to put sort of a kindler gentler face on the party because the exit polls show a lot of voters perceive mitt romney as sort of out of touch and removed from middle class concerns and not really someone who could relate to just the average american and the makeup of the party is a much wider republican party. >> right. >> every way by the polls. >> they can't survive that way. the demographic tide is moving. it was financey, the title of that speech that the majority leader said was make life work. it sounds like an oprah. gwen: i didn't get that. the speech didn't seem to be -- >> no, but i think -- but the sort of an oprah feel to it.
the unifying message of the republican party, the fiscal, our fiscal hours is out of order and the deficit is spiraling and we need to get that under control. you're also seeing republicans saying we can't just be about fiscal issues and in fact, the very beginning of that speech that majority leader cantor gave, let's put aside fiscal issues for a minute. let's talk about education. let's talk about health care. let's talk about immigration. they're trying to put sort of a kindler gentler face...
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>> the money supposedly is going to reduce the deficit. but the problem is, the sequestration is indiscriminate. if you let leon panetta do those cuss and figure out where they should come from and did it with a scalpel that would be fine. but i think the defense department can handle this. the president is not going to come up with cuts and programs that he wants if the republicans don't say what they want. whether they want it to be the virgin birth of spending cuts. >> ryan, you and i know that the 95 billion goes back in the private sector. what happens to it then? then it becomes much more lucrative than 85 billion because it's reinvested. where? in private enterprise, correct? >> it doesn't necessarily go back into the private sector. it van issues. >> how does that happen? >> they don't borrow. >> it's not being borrowed. >> but if it's still -- if it's no longer borrowed, and in the private sector where it is functioning under the rules of -- >> sitting in the banks. >> and the program matt sound capitalism. issue three. gop soul s
>> the money supposedly is going to reduce the deficit. but the problem is, the sequestration is indiscriminate. if you let leon panetta do those cuss and figure out where they should come from and did it with a scalpel that would be fine. but i think the defense department can handle this. the president is not going to come up with cuts and programs that he wants if the republicans don't say what they want. whether they want it to be the virgin birth of spending cuts. >> ryan, you...
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it is easy for the public to focus on the debt and deficit and what is going on in washington. there is still some growth out there. the housing sector is coming back. the auto sector is coming back. those are positives that get completely put back to the forefront when everyone is talking about the debt. host: tom, elkhart, indiana. on our democrat line. caller: elkhart is the recreational vehicle capital. we went down on that in 2007 when the oil prices went up. we are manufacturing housing. we are the musical manufacturing capital. for band and treatments and such. they are made here anymore. are headquartered here, but the work is not here. i do not see how this works. host: were you at the president 's speech in 2009? what did you think when the president came to town? caller: it was helpful. he is doing what he can. he has faced a lot of resistance. it is postindustrial. i am working in michigan four eight federally subsidized wheelchair van. mostly my passengers are senior citizens and disabled people. the 47% that romney talked about. host: we will move on to charles, a
it is easy for the public to focus on the debt and deficit and what is going on in washington. there is still some growth out there. the housing sector is coming back. the auto sector is coming back. those are positives that get completely put back to the forefront when everyone is talking about the debt. host: tom, elkhart, indiana. on our democrat line. caller: elkhart is the recreational vehicle capital. we went down on that in 2007 when the oil prices went up. we are manufacturing housing....
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he sold them a bill of goods, and what they got back was medicare part d, a ballooning deficit, and a financial crisis that devastated the country, a failed war -- a war in iraq that was ill-advised to put it mildly, and now the cuckoo's nest who he cultivated as the ground troops, the shock troops to win elections in 2000 and 2004, they think they're in charge and they're not going to listen to him saying they're not. >> what was the big thing with karl rove? did he start a war to celebrate the tax cut or have a tax cut to celebrate the war. i mean, he put it all together. joy put it right. i forgot to mention the prescription drug thing thrown in without financing it. >> right, right, right. and, you know, he did do a great job in the ots mobilizing and energizing the right wing base to get behind george w. bush, and then he and others did a great job in the last few years under barack obama of energizing them by demonizing barack obama and pushing them to the fringe. >> rove went on fox last night to defend himself and to profess his love for the tea party. what is he up to? he's t
he sold them a bill of goods, and what they got back was medicare part d, a ballooning deficit, and a financial crisis that devastated the country, a failed war -- a war in iraq that was ill-advised to put it mildly, and now the cuckoo's nest who he cultivated as the ground troops, the shock troops to win elections in 2000 and 2004, they think they're in charge and they're not going to listen to him saying they're not. >> what was the big thing with karl rove? did he start a war to...
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democrats and republicans can still get together on a balanced solution to the deficit crisis. republican senator mitch mcconnell says that he know that sequestration would have consequences, but he blames president obama for not putting forward an acceptable plan to prevent it. for more on that, jonathan strong, staff writer, role call, alexander burns and national political reporter with politico. good afternoon to both of you. >> hello. >> outgoing defense secretary leon panetta warned that the $85 billion in cuts would curtail american naval operations by a full third and could force furloughs of as many as 800,000 civilian workers. take a listen to what he said. >> it is difficult to believe, frankly, that congress would simply stand aside. stand aside, fail to make the decisions necessary to resolve this crisis and allow the defense economy, equality of life of america to be irreparably damaged. >> how damaging would these cuts be to our national security? >> it's a great question. the impact is going to be fairly dramatic to some of the employees, civilian employees of t
democrats and republicans can still get together on a balanced solution to the deficit crisis. republican senator mitch mcconnell says that he know that sequestration would have consequences, but he blames president obama for not putting forward an acceptable plan to prevent it. for more on that, jonathan strong, staff writer, role call, alexander burns and national political reporter with politico. good afternoon to both of you. >> hello. >> outgoing defense secretary leon panetta...
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he sold them a bill of goods, and what they got back was medicare part d, a ballooning deficit, and a financial crisis that devastated the country, a failed war -- a war in iraq that was ill-advised to put it mildly, and now the cuckoo's nest who he cultivated as the ground troops, they think they're in charge and they're not going to listen to him saying they're not. >> what was the big thing with karl rove? did he start a war to celebrate the tax cut or have a tax cut to celebrate the war. i mean, he put it all together. i forgot to mention the prescription drug thing thrown in without financing it. >> right, right, right. and, you know, he did do a great job, you know, mobilizing and energizing the right wing base to get behind george w. bush, and then he and others did a great job in the last few years under barack obama of energizing them by demonizing barack obama and pushing them to the fringe. and now he comes along and says, wait a second, you've gone too far. this monster that i have helped to create has gone too far, and i'm picking up the pitchfork and i got my fire, my to
he sold them a bill of goods, and what they got back was medicare part d, a ballooning deficit, and a financial crisis that devastated the country, a failed war -- a war in iraq that was ill-advised to put it mildly, and now the cuckoo's nest who he cultivated as the ground troops, they think they're in charge and they're not going to listen to him saying they're not. >> what was the big thing with karl rove? did he start a war to celebrate the tax cut or have a tax cut to celebrate the...
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. >> our deficit is a big problem. think about it. our national debt, 16.5 trillion dollars? you think that's not a lot of money in tell you what, count one number per second. you know how long it will take to count to 16 trillion? 507,000 years. you make $10 billion, you put in a billion. you make $10, you put in one. some people say that's not fair because it doesn't hurt the guy to made $10 billion as much as -- where does it say you have to hurt the guy? he just put a billion dollars in the pot. we don't need to hurt him. >> a lot of people say his speech eclipsed that of president obama who -- i don't portend to be in the mind of president obama but he didn't look delighted. >> i would like to get in hit mind. loathing on his face. that's one of the more coherent defenses of flat tax. >> start counting. >> why shouldn't every citizen pay the same rate? >> why does it have to be punitive is -- >> exactly. the sure pleasure of punishing someone. >> i found out sean hannity has more power than i do. he got his on his show. here he is. >> well, you know, obviously i had all
. >> our deficit is a big problem. think about it. our national debt, 16.5 trillion dollars? you think that's not a lot of money in tell you what, count one number per second. you know how long it will take to count to 16 trillion? 507,000 years. you make $10 billion, you put in a billion. you make $10, you put in one. some people say that's not fair because it doesn't hurt the guy to made $10 billion as much as -- where does it say you have to hurt the guy? he just put a billion dollars...